Great to see that the dev mailing list is up and running!
Is there any timeline/plan for when we can expect to see the first source code contribution of Adobe happening? The decision to make Apache Flex an incubator project was made really fast, therefore I imagine that it will still take Adobe a few weeks until the source code will be contributed to Apache (legal discussion around which portions of the SDK source code can be put under the Apache license). Thanks, Raju |
The plan is to try to deal with the most obvious and easy licensing issues
and get the most or all of the framework source code in this week. We'll finish scrubbing later. Getting our automated verification suite in will take longer, so we'll probably ask that commits be limited to "safe" things like really simple bug fixes and documentation. -Alex On 1/3/12 4:11 PM, "Raju Bitter" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Great to see that the dev mailing list is up and running! > > Is there any timeline/plan for when we can expect to see the first > source code contribution of Adobe happening? The decision to make > Apache Flex an incubator project was made really fast, therefore I > imagine that it will still take Adobe a few weeks until the source > code will be contributed to Apache (legal discussion around which > portions of the SDK source code can be put under the Apache license). > > Thanks, > Raju -- Alex Harui Flex SDK Team Adobe Systems, Inc. http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui |
Thanks, Alex.
2012/1/4 Alex Harui <[hidden email]>: > The plan is to try to deal with the most obvious and easy licensing issues > and get the most or all of the framework source code in this week. We'll > finish scrubbing later. Wow, that is very quick! > Getting our automated verification suite in will take longer, so we'll > probably ask that commits be limited to "safe" things like really simple bug > fixes and documentation. > > -Alex > > On 1/3/12 4:11 PM, "Raju Bitter" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Great to see that the dev mailing list is up and running! >> >> Is there any timeline/plan for when we can expect to see the first >> source code contribution of Adobe happening? The decision to make >> Apache Flex an incubator project was made really fast, therefore I >> imagine that it will still take Adobe a few weeks until the source >> code will be contributed to Apache (legal discussion around which >> portions of the SDK source code can be put under the Apache license). >> >> Thanks, >> Raju > > -- > Alex Harui > Flex SDK Team > Adobe Systems, Inc. > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Raju Bitter | Software Architect cell: +49 (0) 176 322 011 96 fax: +49 (0) 8821 68 69 08 29 email: [hidden email] Germany |
Thanks for the update Alex. I know this may be asking too much, but would
it be possible to maintain the SVN history as well? That history is often times invaluable in tracking down bugs and looking for specific fixes. Cheers, Ryan On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Raju Bitter <[hidden email]>wrote: > Thanks, Alex. > > 2012/1/4 Alex Harui <[hidden email]>: > > The plan is to try to deal with the most obvious and easy licensing > issues > > and get the most or all of the framework source code in this week. We'll > > finish scrubbing later. > Wow, that is very quick! > > > Getting our automated verification suite in will take longer, so we'll > > probably ask that commits be limited to "safe" things like really simple > bug > > fixes and documentation. > > > > -Alex > > > > On 1/3/12 4:11 PM, "Raju Bitter" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > >> Great to see that the dev mailing list is up and running! > >> > >> Is there any timeline/plan for when we can expect to see the first > >> source code contribution of Adobe happening? The decision to make > >> Apache Flex an incubator project was made really fast, therefore I > >> imagine that it will still take Adobe a few weeks until the source > >> code will be contributed to Apache (legal discussion around which > >> portions of the SDK source code can be put under the Apache license). > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Raju > > > > -- > > Alex Harui > > Flex SDK Team > > Adobe Systems, Inc. > > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Raju Bitter | Software Architect > cell: +49 (0) 176 322 011 96 > fax: +49 (0) 8821 68 69 08 29 > email: [hidden email] > Germany > |
Hi Ryan,
We're looking into preserving the history. We're not sure yet whether or not it is feasible for us to do it. If not maybe we can put the repository we pulled from up somewhere on adobe opensource site so the history is still available. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Frishberg <[hidden email]> Reply-To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 06:35:36 -0800 To: "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]>, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> Cc: Alex Harui <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code contribution >Thanks for the update Alex. I know this may be asking too much, but would >it be possible to maintain the SVN history as well? That history is often >times invaluable in tracking down bugs and looking for specific fixes. > >Cheers, >Ryan > >On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Raju Bitter ><[hidden email]>wrote: > >> Thanks, Alex. >> >> 2012/1/4 Alex Harui <[hidden email]>: >> > The plan is to try to deal with the most obvious and easy licensing >> issues >> > and get the most or all of the framework source code in this week. >>We'll >> > finish scrubbing later. >> Wow, that is very quick! >> >> > Getting our automated verification suite in will take longer, so we'll >> > probably ask that commits be limited to "safe" things like really >>simple >> bug >> > fixes and documentation. >> > >> > -Alex >> > >> > On 1/3/12 4:11 PM, "Raju Bitter" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> > >> >> Great to see that the dev mailing list is up and running! >> >> >> >> Is there any timeline/plan for when we can expect to see the first >> >> source code contribution of Adobe happening? The decision to make >> >> Apache Flex an incubator project was made really fast, therefore I >> >> imagine that it will still take Adobe a few weeks until the source >> >> code will be contributed to Apache (legal discussion around which >> >> portions of the SDK source code can be put under the Apache license). >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Raju >> > >> > -- >> > Alex Harui >> > Flex SDK Team >> > Adobe Systems, Inc. >> > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Raju Bitter | Software Architect >> cell: +49 (0) 176 322 011 96 >> fax: +49 (0) 8821 68 69 08 29 >> email: [hidden email] >> Germany >> |
Hi all,
Our website http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ is 'an ugly temporary website'. I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? Carol |
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Carol,
Have you used svnsync? I highly recommend it. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/notes/svnsync.txt Alternatively... you could 'svn log --xml http://url_to_your_repository' to generate an xml commit history. This would allow you to scrub the output as needed... and then include the file in the initial source commit. Cheers, Rick Winscot www.quilix.com -- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Hi Ryan, > > We're looking into preserving the history. We're not sure yet whether or > not it is feasible for us to do it. If not maybe we can put the > repository we pulled from up somewhere on adobe opensource site so the > history is still available. > > Carol > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ryan Frishberg <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])> > Reply-To: "[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])" <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])> > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 06:35:36 -0800 > To: "[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])" <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])>, > "[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])" <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])> > Cc: Alex Harui <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])> > Subject: Re: Apache Flex source code - timeline for the initial code > contribution > > > Thanks for the update Alex. I know this may be asking too much, but would > > it be possible to maintain the SVN history as well? That history is often > > times invaluable in tracking down bugs and looking for specific fixes. > > > > Cheers, > > Ryan > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Raju Bitter > > <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])>wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Alex. > > > > > > 2012/1/4 Alex Harui <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])>: > > > > The plan is to try to deal with the most obvious and easy licensing > > > > > > issues > > > > and get the most or all of the framework source code in this week. > > > > > > We'll > > > > finish scrubbing later. > > > > > > Wow, that is very quick! > > > > > > > Getting our automated verification suite in will take longer, so we'll > > > > probably ask that commits be limited to "safe" things like really > > > > > > > > > > simple > > > bug > > > > fixes and documentation. > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > On 1/3/12 4:11 PM, "Raju Bitter" <[hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Great to see that the dev mailing list is up and running! > > > > > > > > > > Is there any timeline/plan for when we can expect to see the first > > > > > source code contribution of Adobe happening? The decision to make > > > > > Apache Flex an incubator project was made really fast, therefore I > > > > > imagine that it will still take Adobe a few weeks until the source > > > > > code will be contributed to Apache (legal discussion around which > > > > > portions of the SDK source code can be put under the Apache license). > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Raju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Alex Harui > > > > Flex SDK Team > > > > Adobe Systems, Inc. > > > > http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Raju Bitter | Software Architect > > > cell: +49 (0) 176 322 011 96 > > > fax: +49 (0) 8821 68 69 08 29 > > > email: [hidden email] (mailto:[hidden email]) > > > Germany > > > > > > > > > > |
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Not an initial committer... but I'd be happy to help on this front.
-- Rick Winscot On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Carol Frampton wrote: > Hi all, > > Our website > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > Carol |
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Most of the sites look pretty "ugly".
It would be nice for someone to do something. Maybe someone with more design skills than I have :) On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Carol Frampton <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Our website > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > Carol > > > -- Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos |
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I would like to volunteer for that
On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Our website > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > Carol > > > |
I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < [hidden email]> wrote: > I would like to volunteer for that > On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Our website > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > > > Carol > > > > > > > -- Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos |
Sounds like a perfect opportunity to get the community involved - give it a
deadline of a week to come up with a proposal and have an open vote on the mailinglist? I'm sure we have some really talented people already on here willing to volunteer but might as well open it up and drive some interest and participation? Just a thought. - Peter On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Jonathan Campos <[hidden email]>wrote: > I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > I would like to volunteer for that > > On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Our website > > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > > > > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Campos > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > http://www.d-flex.org/ > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > |
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Maybe I could team up with Rick to get that done, i'll send him an email so
we can trade contacts and get work started On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 16:59, Jonathan Campos <[hidden email]> wrote: > I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > I would like to volunteer for that > > On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Our website > > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > > > > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Campos > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > http://www.d-flex.org/ > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > |
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Hi,
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Carol Frampton <[hidden email]> wrote: > ...We're looking into preserving the history. We're not sure yet whether or > not it is feasible for us to do it. If not maybe we can put the > repository we pulled from up somewhere on adobe opensource site so the > history is still available... If you can get an svn dump from the existing Flex repository that should work, we can ask the ASF infrastructure team to import it. I'd then suggest the following process: -Create the svn dump from the Adobe repository -Put it somewhere with a public URL for download (as it's probably too big to attach to a JIRA issue) -Submit the software grant from Adobe [1], which includes the md5 digest of the dump file -Once the grant is confirmed, create a JIRA issue for the ASF infra team to import the dump -Bertrand [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/software-grant.txt |
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Peter,
Part of me wants to agree, part of me says that if Hugo and Rick are already excited enough to get into it we should just support that. Obviously they are interested enough to already be watching the mailing lists day one. But I'd be happy to see some +1/0/-1's on the subject. I have no problem being told that I'm wrong and lots of people are just knocking down the door to make a new cool design. J On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < [hidden email]> wrote: > Maybe I could team up with Rick to get that done, i'll send him an email so > we can trade contacts and get work started > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 16:59, Jonathan Campos <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < > > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > I would like to volunteer for that > > > On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Our website > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > > > > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > > > > > > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jonathan Campos > > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > > http://www.d-flex.org/ > > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > > > -- Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos |
I like the idea of having anyone that wants to submit a design do so, and if more than one decide to submit something within a timeframe then we can vote on it. If it's only Rick and Hugo that submit a design together, then we go with their design by default.
- Doug -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Campos [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:11 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: the Flex website Peter, Part of me wants to agree, part of me says that if Hugo and Rick are already excited enough to get into it we should just support that. Obviously they are interested enough to already be watching the mailing lists day one. But I'd be happy to see some +1/0/-1's on the subject. I have no problem being told that I'm wrong and lots of people are just knocking down the door to make a new cool design. J On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < [hidden email]> wrote: > Maybe I could team up with Rick to get that done, i'll send him an > email so we can trade contacts and get work started > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 16:59, Jonathan Campos <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < > > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > I would like to volunteer for that On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol > > > Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > Our website > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > > > > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > > > > > > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jonathan Campos > > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > > http://www.d-flex.org/ > > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > > > -- Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos |
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Hi Carol,
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Carol Frampton <[hidden email]> wrote: > ...Our website > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > is 'an ugly temporary website'.... It's all my fault ;-) I'm happy to explain how to modify it if people want to add things there now, but as you say: > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place.... The standard option here would be to use the Apache CMS, it's a fairly basic tool but very convenient for our types of projects as it's based on content in subversion - which also means it's easy to include generated content. There's some information here: http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html and the Stanbol site is an example of a simple website managed by that CMS: site at http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/ content at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/site/trunk If people agree with that solution, I can request ASF infrastructure to set it up for us. Someone will need to create a design anyway (CSS, logos etc), the CMS only provides the editing/staging/publishing infrastructure. -Bertrand |
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I'm sold :)
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Douglas Arthur <[hidden email]> wrote: > I like the idea of having anyone that wants to submit a design do so, and > if more than one decide to submit something within a timeframe then we can > vote on it. If it's only Rick and Hugo that submit a design together, then > we go with their design by default. > > - Doug > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Campos [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:11 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: the Flex website > > Peter, > > Part of me wants to agree, part of me says that if Hugo and Rick are > already excited enough to get into it we should just support that. > Obviously they are interested enough to already be watching the mailing > lists day one. But I'd be happy to see some +1/0/-1's on the subject. I > have no problem being told that I'm wrong and lots of people are just > knocking down the door to make a new cool design. > > J > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Maybe I could team up with Rick to get that done, i'll send him an > > email so we can trade contacts and get work started > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 16:59, Jonathan Campos <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > > I would love to see some work that you and rick can come up with. > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Hugo Miguel Pereira Matinho < > > > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > > I would like to volunteer for that On Jan 4, 2012 4:47 PM, "Carol > > > > Frampton" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > Our website > > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > > > > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'. > > > > > > > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place. > > > > > > > > > > Do we ask for volunteers to work on it? > > > > > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jonathan Campos > > > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > > > http://www.d-flex.org/ > > > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > > > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > > > > > > > > > -- > Jonathan Campos > Dallas Flex User Group Manager > http://www.d-flex.org/ > blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos > twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos > -- Jonathan Campos Dallas Flex User Group Manager http://www.d-flex.org/ blog: http://www.unitedmindset.com/jonbcampos twitter: http://www.twitter.com/jonbcampos |
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On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Jonathan Campos <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Peter, > > Part of me wants to agree, part of me says that if Hugo and Rick are > already excited enough to get into it we should just support that. > Obviously they are interested enough to already be watching the mailing > lists day one. But I'd be happy to see some +1/0/-1's on the subject. I don't think we need a vote before work can commence. Basically if Rick and Hugo are rarin' to go, then they should have at it. I would encourage them to do as much of their work as possible on the mailing list and in Subversion so everyone can participate and see a record of what's happening. Thanks, Greg |
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Hello,
I also have interest in collaborating with the initiative, I will get in touch with Hugo and Rick to find out how I can help. -------------------------------------------- João Felipe "Jotaefe" Lima -------------------------------------------- http://www.jotaefe.com 2012/1/4 Bertrand Delacretaz <[hidden email]> > Hi Carol, > > On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Carol Frampton <[hidden email]> wrote: > > ...Our website > > http://incubator.apache.org/flex/ > > > > is 'an ugly temporary website'.... > > It's all my fault ;-) > > I'm happy to explain how to modify it if people want to add things > there now, but as you say: > > > > > I think we need a logo and some basic structure put in place.... > > The standard option here would be to use the Apache CMS, it's a fairly > basic tool but very convenient for our types of projects as it's based > on content in subversion - which also means it's easy to include > generated content. > > There's some information here: > http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 > http://www.apache.org/dev/cms.html > http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html > > and the Stanbol site is an example of a simple website managed by that CMS: > site at http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/ > content at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/stanbol/site/trunk > > If people agree with that solution, I can request ASF infrastructure > to set it up for us. > > Someone will need to create a design anyway (CSS, logos etc), the CMS > only provides the editing/staging/publishing infrastructure. > > -Bertrand > |
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