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Flash Player end of life

Justin Mclean
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Hi,

I notice on [1] it states this:
In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except for sites which only support Flash

Which I assume means a URL ending .swf?

And on [2] it states:
Since Adobe is no longer supporting Flash Player after the EOL Date, Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021 to help secure users’ systems.

If this is correct? If so that give a very limited window for "sites which only support Flash” to work.

Does anyone know anything different?

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://blog.google/products/chrome/flash-and-chrome/
2. https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html
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Re: Flash Player end of life

Mike Thompson


On 2020/12/03 05:39:59, Justin Mclean <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I notice on [1] it states this:
> In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except for sites which only support Flash
>
> Which I assume means a URL ending .swf?
>
> And on [2] it states:
> Since Adobe is no longer supporting Flash Player after the EOL Date, Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021 to help secure users’ systems.
>
> If this is correct? If so that give a very limited window for "sites which only support Flash” to work.
>
> Does anyone know anything different?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://blog.google/products/chrome/flash-and-chrome/
> 2. https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html

I'd be very interested in any insight into this ...

My current (developing) understanding is as follows:
1. Chrome will block loading the Flash plugin  (1-Jan-2021)
2. Even if somehow loaded, the Flash player will not load swf.  (12-Jan-2021)

Regarding point 1, as I understand it Chrome (Chromium?) calls home to get a list of out-of-date, unacceptable/blockable plugins.  And from 1/1/2021, this list will contain all versions of Flash.  So that means Chrome will not load the plugin.

Regarding point 2, as I understand it, Adobe wants to cover itself because it is no longer doing security updates, so it wants to stop any Flash content from running on its players.


Our problem is that we have an intranet-ish Flex app which runs within Electron and a local pepper flash player via DLL (ie. not downloading Flash).  And we thought we were safe from the apocalypse.  We have suddenly woken up to the fact that we are not, and that our application is just going to stop working.  

It seems the only solution is to licence an alternative Flash plugin from Harman (?sp)?

Does anyone have any other work around or insights?  

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Re: Flash Player end of life

John Cunliffe
I would already be interested in how Adobe can make the flash player no
longer play SWF. For new versions this might work, but I don't think older
versions have this functionality yet. Thus I assume that older flash
plugins should still work, and equally that running in the Flash Projector
should still work.

However Adobe will no longer support Flash Plugin downloads, recommend
uninstalling, and there will be security updates for all OS which
effectively removes the browser plugins. Again, Flash Projector should stay
unaffected, right?

Also, in any case I believe that Adobe Air stays unaffected by this as well
- and it's terribly easy to migrate a Flex Web Application to a Flex
Desktop Application with Air. Does anybody know whether any of the EOL
actions also apply to the Air runtime?

kind regards
John

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:58 AM Mike Thompson
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> On 2020/12/03 05:39:59, Justin Mclean <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I notice on [1] it states this:
> > In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except
> for sites which only support Flash
> >
> > Which I assume means a URL ending .swf?
> >
> > And on [2] it states:
> > Since Adobe is no longer supporting Flash Player after the EOL Date,
> Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning
> January 12, 2021 to help secure users’ systems.
> >
> > If this is correct? If so that give a very limited window for "sites
> which only support Flash” to work.
> >
> > Does anyone know anything different?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1. https://blog.google/products/chrome/flash-and-chrome/
> > 2. https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html
>
> I'd be very interested in any insight into this ...
>
> My current (developing) understanding is as follows:
> 1. Chrome will block loading the Flash plugin  (1-Jan-2021)
> 2. Even if somehow loaded, the Flash player will not load swf.
> (12-Jan-2021)
>
> Regarding point 1, as I understand it Chrome (Chromium?) calls home to get
> a list of out-of-date, unacceptable/blockable plugins.  And from 1/1/2021,
> this list will contain all versions of Flash.  So that means Chrome will
> not load the plugin.
>
> Regarding point 2, as I understand it, Adobe wants to cover itself because
> it is no longer doing security updates, so it wants to stop any Flash
> content from running on its players.
>
>
> Our problem is that we have an intranet-ish Flex app which runs within
> Electron and a local pepper flash player via DLL (ie. not downloading
> Flash).  And we thought we were safe from the apocalypse.  We have suddenly
> woken up to the fact that we are not, and that our application is just
> going to stop working.
>
> It seems the only solution is to licence an alternative Flash plugin from
> Harman (?sp)?
>
> Does anyone have any other work around or insights?
>
>
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Re: Flash Player end of life

Justin Mclean
Administrator
Hi,

> I would already be interested in how Adobe can make the flash player no
> longer play SWF.

I believe recent versions of the flash player have this feature built into them. I was pointed to this thread [1] which include info about how to change mmc.cfg to disable uninstalling and updating and add a white list.

Something like this:
EOLUninstallDisable=1
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0
EnableAllowList=1
AutoUpdateDisable=1
ErrorReportingEnable=1
AllowListUrlPattern=http://localhost/ <http://localhost/>

For more info on the options see chapter 4 in [2]

> Also, in any case I believe that Adobe Air stays unaffected by this as well
> - and it's terribly easy to migrate a Flex Web Application to a Flex
> Desktop Application with Air. Does anybody know whether any of the EOL
> actions also apply to the Air runtime?

My understanding is that they do not.

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://community.adobe.com/t5/flash-player/adobe-flash-availability-after-2020/td-p/10929047?page=1 <https://community.adobe.com/t5/flash-player/adobe-flash-availability-after-2020/td-p/10929047?page=1>
2. https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/flashplayer/articles/flash_player_admin_guide/pdf/latest/flash_player_32_0_admin_guide.pdf <https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/devnet/flashplayer/articles/flash_player_admin_guide/pdf/latest/flash_player_32_0_admin_guide.pdf>
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RE: Flash Player end of life

Kessler CTR Mark J-2
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Justin,
    Our experience shows Chrome asking to activate flash by right clicking to load the application, but that is not much of a deterrence.  In our case we have a standard html file embedding the swf app and not loading the swf directly.  It might have something to do with how prominent or given size dedicated to the swf.  I think the majority of support will drop in January, mostly based on receiving a new update to your browsers.  However, Microsoft will have a bit longer term support [1] mostly directed at enterprise users.



[1] https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2020/09/04/update-adobe-flash-end-support/


-Mark K

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Mclean <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 00:40
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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Flash Player end of life

Hi,

I notice on [1] it states this:
In December, Chrome 55 will make HTML5 the default experience, except for sites which only support Flash

Which I assume means a URL ending .swf?

And on [2] it states:
Since Adobe is no longer supporting Flash Player after the EOL Date, Adobe will block Flash content from running in Flash Player beginning January 12, 2021 to help secure users’ systems.

If this is correct? If so that give a very limited window for "sites which only support Flash” to work.

Does anyone know anything different?

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://blog.google/products/chrome/flash-and-chrome/
2. https://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html